The Bipolar Brain – A Radio Station You Can’t Turn Off
Ah, the human brain. It’s a wondrous thing. It calculates, it categorizes, it makes connections and it remembers the square root of 144. I’m constantly awed by its power.
But one of the annoying things that can happen to a brain is that somehow, a song gets stuck in it. Somehow, even though its great power and ability, the catchy hook of the latest pop song gets stuck inside some errant neurons and plays over and over.
And this causes a lot more trouble in my bipolar brain than it does for others.
I Have Justin Bieber Stuck in My Head; I’m Thinking of Cutting it Off
I find myself with songs stuck in my head all the time. Like, every day, all the time. And they aren’t songs that I like or even songs I have heard that day they are just random songs that somehow fight their way into my consciousness long enough to create a groove there. And once they’re there? Good luck getting them out.
My Bipolar Brain and Earworms
According to Wikipedia, this phenomenon is known as an “earworm,” “musical imagery repetition” or “involuntary music imagery.” In Germany, they have a special word for it – Ohrwurn – “a type of song that typically has a high, upbeat melody and repetitive lyrics that verge between catchy and annoying.”
Earworms are completely natural, of course, and apparently, 98% of people experience them. Women seem to experience earworms for longer and are more irritated by them. Songs with lyrics account for about three-quarters of earworms.
My Earworm Moved In
Unlike the experience that most people have, I have earworms much of the time. Sometimes it’s one song that repeats for days and sometimes it’s many songs in a day, but predominantly they are there.
I have found no research suggesting people with bipolar disorder have more incidence of earworms than others but there is research that says people with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) do and as I’ve remarked previously, OCD and bipolar disorder may be linked. And earworms on hypomania? That is your brain on extra-crispy-crazy.
Admittedly, it is a very obsessive thing my brain does. It feels like an obsession with the invisible. I can never see it so it never goes away. And I find this highly troubling.
Like, highly troubling. Like I could see someone wanting to ice pick his or herself just to make the blooming song in his or her head shut the heck up. It’s that much of an anxious obsession. It’s crazy-driving obsession. Sometimes I feel like I’m begging my brain to think of anything else but it laughs and carries on with the 30-second loop.
Holy macaroni is it ever frustrating.
So, my question to you is this: How often do you experience earworm? Is it troubling to you?
Tracy, N. (2012, November 23). The Bipolar Brain – A Radio Station You Can’t Turn Off, HealthyPlace. Retrieved on 2022, August 8 from https://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/breakingbipolar/2012/11/bipolar-brain-radio-cant-turn-off
Author: Natasha Tracy
don't know if this is a bipolar thing --- but then didn't know I was bipolar until diagnosed last month! It suggests we really should pay closer attention to what we are listening to. The good news is all art is art (but is all music, honestly good art?) I used to be able to drown out my thoughts using a journal then listening to a good CD.
I haven’t gone a single day without a song in my head for as long as I can remember (30 years?). And I tell you, when you go into a room to have a meeting and you have ‘Who Let the Dogs Out’ stuck in your head, where it has been for hours, it is frustrating and suuuuuuper difficult to concentrate.
I do have some songs that help melt some of the loudest songs to a more dull roar that I will try to particularly put in my head. But it switches too fast. Like a child fiddling with a radio.
And it isnt just songs, it is words and phrases with no tune, like words like “archipelago” or “vernacular” or “haberdashery”.
My family doctor had no idea. My psychiatrist was the first to mention ‘auditory hallucinations’ but I am not so sure that is correct.
I have tried so many methods to get rid of the songs, like the shout it out variation. But activities like that usually push my mania, (which is already pushing at the seams with the songs)over the edge.
I can’t focus on reading, I can’t meditate because my brain is having a dance party which just pushes me on edge and diving for my playlist to put on something different.
I do this all the time. I never knew that there was a word for it. I never knew that OCD and bipolar could go hand in hand I always thought that I had OCD I have found that wearing my headphones and listening to music constantly all day long helps with the earworms. I really don't hear the music as much it actually helps me be able to focus on what I'm doing at the time people find it strange but it actually helps me normalize my day if that makes sense. I'm glad I found this article because I just thought the super annoying songs in my head which seem to be somewhere over the rainbow and do re mi from The sound of music which as you can tell super annoying which I saw someone talking about the oompa loompa song above in a comment so that's just as annoying. But you should try out the headphone thing if you have this problem and it's severe because it really does help and I know people won't understand but you can actually function and concentrate a lot easier. Thank you for this article.
You're welcome. Thank you for sharing the technique you use. I know others will find it helpful.
- Natasha Tracy
I too have the ever playing music in my head . Hope it don't get stuck on the "loompa-loompa" song again , there are worse... I also have tinitise that I only notice when it's quiet or I think about it . Once in a in a blue moon it stops as does the music and it seems like somethings wrong . I have found at least a way to change the song playing tho- do what the radio station does when the song ends , announce the stations call letters like 102.5 WDVE Pittsburgh. That usually it . If not - go to commercial...
I tried searching earworm and bipolar, and was so surprised to find no research papers. I’m in a hypomanic episode currently. Mine are often triggered by stress and sleep routine disruption. I have been sleeping very little but still feel wide awake, and CONSTANTLY have a couple of songs in my head that just go round in a loop. My mind plays/sings them very fast, over and over and I find it characteristic of a hypomanic episode at this point: racing thoughts, jumping between random topics with certain parts of songs played in a loop in between. I experience earworm at ‘stable’ times too (like most people), but never so intensely. Thanks for this post!
I have been living for this now for over a year, and as much as it is distressing at first I have found that the brain begins to adapt to it and slowly it seems to fade into the background and just become a more normal thing.
I’ve been to the doctor and had an mri done with normal results. I also see my psychiatrist every three months and have tried antipsychotic and antidepressant medication which neither have made it fade, I am now going lower on my medication since it hasn’t made any difference. Anyways, if you are newly suffering with this awful condition try to keep your head up and hopefully eventually you will just start to adapt to it and it won’t be such a bother, or if you’re lucky enough it will fade completely. But you are not alone in this condition.
Hmm, I have had this condition for 53 years and it's just as bad as the very first day. How long do you think I should keep my head up? I'm 72 now so I guess I'm running out of time. By the way I have tried every conceivable treatment you can possibly imagine, and then some. Last thing I tried was TMS which cost £2000. Good money for them, zero help to me. But there you are, we're all unique individuals, and what works for one will not necessarily work for another. I've noticed many people don't seem able to grasp this simple concept. Anyway, it is what it is and we have to keep going as best we can...
I’m sorry to hear that your situation is just as bad as it was the first day. I’ve just sort of learned to adapt to it, even though it’s still present. I’m sorry you’ve been suffering with this for so many years. Keep your head up as best you can. Wishing you well.
I literally had a Justin Bieber random song in my head I’m scared it’s 2021 wtf I don’t even listen to him ughhh wowowowowow
Same happen to me,songs never stop playing
I can't remember a time in my life, at ANY point in time, where I didn't have some song "playing" in the background in my head. If I'm listening to music its whatever I'm listening to, so I prefer to have music on a lot so I'm not just hearing bits of songs on repeat, but it's constant. It's almost like I'm in a movie or TV show with background music going, my own personal radio station in my head.
Sometimes its great, like when I'm having fun and a perfect song will pop into my head and then its like I have my own personal soundtrack going. Other times it feeds into depression or other negative feelings and makes them worse. The songs tend to be tied to my mood, upbeat songs when I'm happy, sad songs when I'm upset, fast songs when I'm panicked or manic. Sometimes the song causes the mood, especially if I'm listening to music. A song I like can pick me up on a bad day, or a song that my mind associates with feeling down can sink me out of a good mood. Other times the song stuck in my head will change if something changes my mood.
The songs themselves never really bother me, aside from getting annoying sometimes like listening to a song on repeat or if its a song I dislike. Most of the time its just music I know and I don't mind the soundtrack. If the songs change often enough or I'm focused on something else I don't even notice all the time unless I think about it. Usually I notice when a single bit of a song gets stuck in my head on loop or if it's a song I dislike. But it's somewhat comforting to know I'm not the only one with an iPod stuck in their head, haha.
This sounds exactly like me! I find that when I'm having a disagreement or an unpleasant conversation, the volume seems to go up and it is hard to concentrate on what is being said. I'm assuming it's my brains way of trying to cope with a stressful situation.
I find it comforting to know that I don't suffer this alone.
I have posted on this forum many times over the last few years commenting on musical intrusive thoughts. I have tried many different methods to try and help with these intrusive thoughts without success.
Anyway, I have now decided to try a 30 session course of TMS (Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation) as I have seen many positive reviews about this treatment. I will update this forum as I proceed with the treatment over the coming months. If it proves to be helpful then maybe others might be tempted to try the treatment (although it is expensive).
Hi Alan wondering if this treatment was a success and how much are the treatments please hope your well
Hi Stacey, I started my 30 session treatment on July 12th and completed on August 23rd. I took the discount offer that SmartTMS was offering at that time. Normally a 30 session course of treatment is a whopping £7500 but the offer reduced this to £1800 (plus £200 for initial consultation), so a significant reduction. Even so I had to borrow the money as I am not rich and live on a few small pensions (I'm 72 now).
It's now almost 6 weeks later at the time of writing and, I have to say, I have not experienced any significant improvement as yet. I've had a few days here and there where I had reduced intrusive thoughts but nothing consistent. I'm feeling somewhat disappointed at the moment but, hopefully, things may improve over the coming weeks and months.
Would I recommend? Not really because of the cost mainly. It's like every other treatment out there - works for some and not others. If money is not an issue then it's worth a try otherwise it's a pile of money to gamble....
I hear bits of songs or even film soundtracks ,the most recent is the Halloween soundtrack ,sometimes it gets out and sometimes comes back and sometimes replaces itself I do not why this happens just the mind chooses what to play on and on ,I try to exercise ,sometimes works out and sometimes doesn't ,I listen to relaxing Tibetan music works out for a short time and the radio station comes back ,funny I did not realize it was so common in people
I have taken various antidepressants for years. Sometimes I see to get immune to one and have to switch it up. My insurance i have now I have to go clinic. They are not as knowledgeable as most psychiatrist im used to seeing. So I am suffering during covid, no able to figure out a way to get a better doctor. Long story short. I do not have earworms when my meds are working right.
Ive been experiencing the same thing recently for last few months. Any Era of songs , im 63 , so a vast variety! I had a Brain Tumour 16 years ago and have been having frequent headaches and i have 2 children with Mental Health problems too.
However, i find if i just sing along to whatever appears , it will eventually give up after awhile , even if it takes a few hours of singing to do it!
It is just conditioning your brain to say " No " i dont want to play your stupid games! Good Luck 😁
I’m 49 and have songs, different ones and only a few lines, pop into my head at least 10 to 20 times a day. This has been this way for over since on and off since I was a teenager. I also have severe tinnitus but I’m positive it’s not related. Finding these comments has made me realise I’m not alone as my psychologist was clueless.
The songs annoy me and frustrate me when they won’t stop to the point of yelling at them in my head but most of look at them like I have a subconscious “Bumblebee “ ( from the movie transformers who could only speak via songs from the car radio )who sends me messages in the form of music. I’ve learnt to listen to my songs and try and tap into my emotional state at that moment to see if my mind is trying to tell me something.
My songs are from every era, every genre and sometimes songs my conscious has never heard. Normally in the form of repetitive few lines and never the same after the situational “loop” has ended.
I have severe anxiety, panic disorder and ocd and I am not medicated as I believe drugs don’t work. I do take CBD oil from my anxiety which is marvellous and I find my musical brain sends me songs more and more when anxiety and worry are higher ( even if outwardly I don’t feel anxious I did deeper to find the root cause )
I relied on music as a teenager to get me through my parents messy divorce, I used it to stop hearing their yelling. I use to to make me feel good and I’m positive my brain is using it in a way to self medicate when it thinks I need it. So I listen, accept and it goes away until the next moment in the day I need it.
This is so refreshing! You guys have no idea how normal this makes me feel. I stumbled upon this feed while researching songs being stuck on repeat in my mind all day everyday. I do also have tinnitus which I thought was the culprit! But I full heartedly appreciate everyone here who stopped in and commented with tips and advice on how to handle this annoying problem, and even ways to possibly overcome it altogether. I’m so grateful to have like-minded people in this big world. Thank you all, much love❤️
Please try listening to an audiobook. Though it's not a permanent fix, it will allow you to take a break from the barrage. I can listen out loud on my phone, but some may need to try it with headphones to keep out other distractions. Just make sure it's something you're actually interested in listening to so your mind doesn't wander. I do this when I'm doing things like dishes or repetitive tasks at work. Hope this helps someone.
Hello everyone. OCD and anxiety is a liar, it makes us believe the worst case scenarios of our imaginations. I get songs in my head quite a bit, I had to learn to not only accept it but encourage it. I learned this from my intrusive thoughts, images and thoughts that were so horrible that my mind kept playing it over and over again. I learned that once the fear of having such thoughts was removed, the images faded on their own. Same with the songs in my mind. It happens to just about everybody, according to research 98% get music or songs playing in their minds and 90% of people it happens to at least 4 times a week. Meaning its our anxiety about it that causes our grief, as this happens to 9 out of 10 people multiple times a week or more. Those people do not have underlying anxiety or OCD which means its probably playing in their heads and they barely notice it. Same with me, when my anxiety levels are down, I don’t even realize its there.
I'm sorry but you've fallen into the classic trap of thinking that all people react in a similar fashion to yourself. Just because you experience certain results from a certain course of action does not mean others experience the same results. You are making lots of assumptions based on general statistical information. I have seen this so many times during the last 52 years of suffering with this condition (OCD/intrusive thoughts/intrusive musical imagery - call it what you will), and it has been an ongoing problem.
Actually some of the worst 'offenders' are the so called professionals because most of them start by assuming they know what the problem is - and they don't. Each person is a unique individual and what might be effective for one person will not help another. During the last 52 years (I'm 71 now by the way) I have tried every conceivable treatment and medication that you can possibly imagine - and maybe more. Sadly, nothing has helped me to any significant degree. Also, all these treatments and medications and therapies can only ever address the symptoms (at least that's been my personal experience over the last half century).
The other thing you don't mention is that this condition is infinitely variable in how it impacts on individuals. It can range from a minor irritation to unrelenting mental torture such that any sort of normal functioning is almost impossible. It sounds to me like you're one of t;he lucky ones on the lower end of the scale; this is simply due to 'the luck of the draw.'
Yes, I agree with you, any sort of anxiety will exacerbate this condition; however anxiety and/or depression do not cause this condition. Nobody really knows the cause - we just know that it's possible to reduce the symptoms (for some, not all) with antidepressants, various therapies, and so on. I will never stop trying to find something that will help me because I'm not giving in to this; however the reality is that after 52 years of abject mental torture, it's very likely that I will suffer this until the end of my days.
Has anyone ever got rid of their earworm? If so how? I can't even function anymore, I'm afraid I'm only 22 and I don't think I can carry on with life in this mess. :(
Hi Jo and Emma, my heart goes out to you both because I have suffered with this loathsome condition for 52 years. Over that time I have tried just about everything you can think of or imagine to find a 'cure.' Sadly there is no cure that I'm aware of, and probably won't be for a long, long time. Yes, there are a thousand ways of dealing with the symptoms, but I have never read of anyone having found a permanent cure. You can chew gum and listen to distracting music (classical or jazz works best) until the cows come home, but the fundamental problem of intrusive musical thoughts remains obstinately rooted somewhere within the brain. In my opinion this is a physiological condition (chemical imbalance within the brain), and no amount of so called 'talk therapy' will change this. I recently found out about TMS (transcranial magnetic stimulation) and it does appear to be very promising - at least if you have a lot of money. A course of treatment will knock you back about £4-5000 and then you have to have regular follow up sessions at around £200/session (ouch!). Anyway, there it is - wish I could have been more helpful and positive but this has been my experience over many years (I'm 71 now)....
Hi, ive been reading a lot about this condition. I feel that I have it. There's always some song playing in my mind. it changes all the time, some times even after less than a minute. whenever I'm feeling sad or angry i can never properly feel the emotions because I have a song playing full blast in my mind. It keeps me up at night. Chewing gum doesn't help but listening to music does. Any tips on how to deal with it please ?
i too have been suffering from this for about four months, it’s relentless and no matter what i do aside from watching tv it’s always there. i stopped listening to music because of it and stay in bed most of the day trying to fall asleep to escape it. i’ve been taking lexapro for a month and an antipsychotic for a couple months which i’ve recently upped the dosage of with no change in the songs at all. it’s very discouraging, i can’t imagine having to live with this for the rest of my life i’m only 28 years old.
has anyone found anything that’s worked for them? please share, this condition is debilitating and causes pure suffering.
Have you found a solution? I'm the same for the past few months, I'm only 22 and have no mental health issues
I'm sorry you're experiencing that. I know how hard it is. Unfortunately, I don't know of a solution. What I can say, though, is you should see a doctor if it's causing you great distress.
- Natasha Tracy
There is no known 'solution' for OCD/intrusive thoughts. As regards seeing a doctor PLEASE do not waste time because they haven't got a clue about this condition. They will almost certainly prescribe an antidepressant because they don't know what else to do. If they refer you to a psychiatrist or a psychologist they will just try 'talking' therapy and, believe me, this will have little or no effect. If you're referred to a CBT therapist that will also be a complete waste of time. The big problem is that these so called professionals believe the condition is psychologically based and so they just root around for 'traumatic' experiences you've had in the past. This is a physiological condition (in my opinion) and no amount of talking about it will make any difference. I don't want to be negative but I have seen all these people, and more, over the last 52 years and they simply have no clue how to constructively help. The only thing I have encountered that may help is something called TMS therapy (transcranial magnetic stimulation) - apparently good results have been recorded over several years for OCD patients and others......only problem is that it costs a fortune. A full treatment if aound 30 sessions will be around £5-6000 and then you will need ongoing 'maintenance' treatment at around £200/session. If I had the funds I would definitely try this but I don't think I will live long enough sadly....
I would agree with with you. I have been to a doctor, who didn't think I had OCD or PTSD, although I'm sure I do. She just thought I was depressed, and was sceptical when I mentioned what I thought I had, so I felt she wasn't taking my very educated self-diagnosis seriously. Which made me feel more alone about the whole thing. I went to a psychotherapist then for CBT, but that made it worse because now I'd talked about the intrusive, disturbing thoughts, they became more present than ever in my mind. I went to a different psychotherapist just before that, and she talked lots (too much sometimes) and when I said I thought I had OCD, she said a thing that professional therapists should never say. She totally shut down the conversation and brushed my words aside by saying 'everyone had a bit of OCD'. That's absolutely outrageous for a therapist to say. OCD is an actual condition that makes people's lives a daily struggle, not something 'everyone' has. And she then went on to say there was nothing wrong with me. After me telling her for multiple sessions that I was really struggling, and even wanted to not be here sometimes. Needless to say, I'll never go to a therapist again!
I READ THAT CHEWING GUM CAN HELP, AT LEAST YOU CAN TRY THAT DURING THE DAY. I AM JUST NOW TRYING IT AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING---? WILL SEE.
I'm chewing gum right now. It's causing the nonsense loop to go to the rhythm.
Since I was little, I'm 46 now, there's been non-stop unmusical loops with no groove.
My eyes open and I hear da de du du da DE di du, and variations.
All waking hours.
The strange part is that I'm a multi-instrumentalist and recording artist yet the loops are just so not musical. It does turn into actual music when I'm feeling happier but then it goes back to that nonsense. One day at Guitar Center I was trying a Stratocaster when I was approached by a guy that asked me to play the exact song I just spelled out for you above. I was beside myself yet I attempted to play it but he said no it goes like this, and repeated the same exact riff as well as I was playing what he was singing to me. So far that stranger is the only other person that says they have this type of "earworm".
It interrupts all of my thoughts, my focus, and it's so disturbing.
At one point I pretended to be a dancer at some kind of performance where I'm forced to dance to the music in my brain and it looks so rigid and uncomfortable so I don't dance like that anymore. Has anyone had this type? It's similar to the George Krantz song, Din Da Da.
Okay for now.
Omg....I found this while trying to search if there was an actual psychological diagnosis for the constant music going through my mind. The music is totally random and its almost all of the time. A couple months ago I had the A-Team theme song going through my mind. It went on for a few days and as far as I can recall, I didnt have any instances where I recently heard it. Also....YES...sometimes its songs that I dont even like. I have a knack for remembering lyrics, but not sure if that relates to this in any way. It's nice knowing that I'm not the only one.
I just found this blog while doing a Google search on whether there was something wrong with me for constantly living in a real life musical. I tend to just randomly blurt out lyrics to songs, jingles and even my own made up songs. Even though I don't do this in public very much (it has happened though) I have started questioning my sanity (maybe I (we) have been in quarantine too long). But so glad I found this blog and have read through the comments. I feel much less alone in this musical now. <3
The music in my head is getting louder. I also heard noises like different conversations with background music. So extremely weird. I can go to sleep with a song in my head and when I wake up hours later. It’s still freakin there! So confused!!
Had song stuck syndrome for 4 months now. I'm going insane. It's horrible.
Since 2008 I've been on a steady regimen of luvox, klonopin, and lamotrigine for chronic depersonalization disorder (a rare dissociative condition) and had been doing fine until i took on a full time job with a crazy schedule. Due to my new symptoms i increased my luvox and lamotrigine but no decrease in symptoms. Thru my research ive found that lamotrigine can induce musical hallucinations but that's different from internal musical imagery (earworms). I'm not sure what the cause is. My therapist thinks the stress and lack of sleep from my job (which i have since left) caused this. Not sure what to do. I'm doing hypnosis weekly but not much is working. Today i had a pretty good day but after a nap ive had the same song on a loop for the last 8 hours. Anyone have any info please contact me.
Hi Chris, sorry to hear you're suffering like this; I can totally sympathise since I have had this strange disorder most of my life (I'm now 70). I suffer from chronic OCD and I have tried countless treatments, therapies and medications over the last 30-40 years, none of which has remotely helped I'm sorry to say. I'm not a defeatist person but, after more than 50 years of this terrible condition, I have finally accepted that I will almost certainly have it for the rest of my life.
The condition varies from day to day, and week to week; sometimes the symptoms ease and I can enjoy some peace for a while. On other occasions it is so bad that words cannot describe the torment I go through. All I can do is face each day as it comes and make the best of a very bad deal. I wish I could offer some good advice but sadly it's a condition that seems to have no real cure, and all most people can do is try to alleviate the pain with antidepressants (which I stopped trying years ago by the way).
Anyway I wish you well and hope that we can all eventually look forward to some peace of mind.
I have been working on Psychoanalysis for 25 years and teaching for 12 years. Through all my life, I believed that this 'ecole' contains all the answers about any kind of mental problems. I do still believe...
As for my problems: I started to memorize some numbers, license plates, names, conversations and other things 3.5 years ago. Because of my scheduled life style, I had to skip long-term therapeutic process and started medical treatment. I took 100mg. Zoloft for two years and all symptoms dissapeared in the first 6 months successfully. I must say that the Sertraline is one of the most powerful tools for reducing anxiety.
After quiting pills -one year ago- this 'Stuck Song Syndrome' started. I just began to search some answers but I could not find any right suggestions.
I still have the same problem but not that effective. I don't have a spesific song. One song appears and then the other song generally dominates the first one. It is like a circle. I don't have any intention to take pills again.
Since 'anxiety' is not my major problem, I can face with these songs easily, like an observer from out of my mind. For the last two weeks, I managed to control those rhythms without trying to suppress them.
Here are some tips:
Whatever happens, please don't forget that the most harmful effect of the mind is anxiety. If you manage to reduce your anxiety, all musical effect 'slims down' automatically. If you defeat your anxiety, all musical symptoms lose their powers constantly. To defeat anxiety, put yourself in someone's place, someone who is healthy, who does not suffer with the same problem. Oberve people closer to you, see how they are careless about listening music, see how they go on with their life easily . A sharp identification with someone who does not have the same problem can really reduce the power of the song that stucks in your mind.
Second, jazz music; especially experimental or avant-garde jazz! It is really impossible to memorize any experimental Jazz music's partitions (if you are not a musician). When you listen that kind of music, the notes immediately transforms into an anti-virus that attacks the song stuck in your head. Use jazz as a spy for hunting the cheap song in your mind. Try 'Jazz Cure' not only once. You'll see the result after a couple of days.
There are some other interesting solutions, I'll keep on writing if you need to hear them.
Hi, very interesting post and I totally agree with all your comments. For myself I have suffered with all of these 'stuck song' issues for over 50 years. During that time I have tried every possible method known to man to try and alleviate my symptoms and, depressing though it is, nothing has ever really helped. I am not a quitter but, at the grand old age of 70, I have finally accepted the fact that I will be taking this to my grave.
BTW the jazz works amazingly well for me and is the only thing that helps maintain my sanity. All the best!
50 years is an enormous time to fight with an obsession. In early years of your life, 'antidepressant treatment' was not that powerful. Did you try new generation antidepressants? Zoloft is pretty active with these kind of obsessions, especially at higher doses (150-200 mg.)? I'm asking this because I really wonder about how you manage/d the anxiety level of this syndrome throughout the years.
Firstly - how have I managed 50 years of this condition? Simple really - there was no choice, I just had to carry on and make the best of a bad deal. I had a job and responsibilities to others so I persevered regardless.
I am VERY, VERY susceptible to the side effects of antidepressants and I transform into a total zombie. Better luck in the next life maybe?? :-)
Alan, have you tried latuda? It’s supposed to help with this. Also, have you had this your entire life? Do you feel down everyday because of it? I don’t want to live like that everyday.
I thank you for your excellent writing and advice Andre. As a medical student and newly "SSS" pt I found the power to control the brain beyond fasinating. And along with a passion for Jazz, your advice and insight is much appreciated.
What I hear in my mind is duh duh duh da du da duh.sometimes a song will last for a while but then it turns back to the rhythm
Yeah I’ve been dealing with this for weeks now & it’s causing me a lot of anxiety... it’s almost like I have a radio playing in my head.
Larry D, I have that SAME LOOP! You're the 3rd person to say this in 40+ years.
This is quite common and not so rare after all. I understand that the constant earworms can be a warning/distraction from the brain when going deeper into a depression and anxiety, letting you know that cortisol is too high, and serotonin too low. Then there are those like myself who have OCD (pure ''o'' OCD in my case).
I have to admit that yes, the music can be annoying but I am saddened that some people on here are so frustrated and tired of them that they are suicidal. I really hope that you find the help that you need and try to live best with the music.
Initially when i had this syndrome I was very scared and went very deeply into anxiety and depression! A month after taking an SSRI (Paxil) it had all stopped and i felt amazing. However, 4 years after my initial diagnosis and the music, it came back when I was experiencing high levels of stress in life. After being off the Paxil for 3 1/2 years, i went back on them - and they have always worked for me.
Besides meds though i think there are some solutions our there that will help. Mindfulness and meditation can work. What you resist persists and what you look straight at will disappear. You can focus straight on it when you meditate. ERP is exposure, response prevention:- take a bath or meditate, notice the music and if anxiety comes up let it be (if this does happen) getting stronger, and stronger - however do not allow the compulsions to enter, such as pushing the music out, repeating numbers or words over it, jumping out of the bath/mediation position to find a quick distraction - JUST BE WITH IT. Also, according to Seth (PhD in Psychology) he suggested the following to me: 'With that kind of “earworm,” we usually recommend doing the opposite of our first inclination. So instead of trying to make it go away, the person would try to make it stay! Sing it “full volume” in one’s head, try to keep it in mind, etc. Our minds tend to be rebellious, and generally what happens when we try to keep something in mind is that our minds wander to other things. All the best with this!''
Also, there are other natural treatments such as vitamin C to reduce cortisol, magnesium chelate to relax the mind, chamomile, lavendar to increase some serotonin. Inositol (vitamin B8) is amazing, please read the following article
Also, please read these articles as there are CBT and ERP for stuck music syndrome: -https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5461857/
Importantly, see your GP/Mental Health Professional to talk about this. Talk therapy alone increases serotonin and makes you feel better.
I hope some of this helps
This is Juanma from Spain. I'm also a Obsessive person and going trough a lot lately... A few months ago my stuck songs came in, and now I ALWAYS have a song in my head. Usually the latest I heard. Sometimes I realize I have forgot about the song and then instantly I have one in my head... usually the same, as a "basic password song". This is just one of my many symptoms so I am starting with SSRI. Also meditation, sport, terhapy and everything you can imagine. I can get used to the music but it's a constant reminder of my anxiety and weakness and somedays I can't simply cope with it.
Just want to confirm: did you said SSRI help you get rid of the problem in a month? That would be awesome.
Would really thank your reply.